More tales of woe involving UKBA/HMRC Dover ... but who cares?

I'm in contact with a lady who suffered at the hands of the horrendous tactics used by UKBA/HMRC at Dover. I shall be putting up her story shortly. Dover is especially out of control in my view, this story is one of many. How many? ... well seeing as UKBA put the figures of seized vehicles at over 5000 a year one has to judge for oneself. whilst remembering that figure does not include people wronged at airports and foot passengers at the ferry ports. UKBA/HMRC also make sure that once they have seized the goods they go to great lengths to tell you that you can't win and it will cost you thousands of pounds in costs. Many of their victims believe them.

Yet our country is blind to it and l have to say intentionally blind. This includes amongst the usual suspects, the so-called big Libertarian blogs, groups and the like. Sure they can go on about the loss of civil liberties and freedom of people but god forbid that they should highlight incidents where ones civil rights are totally stripped from you as they rob you at will. No, well talk about CCTV cameras instead or how Mr Photographer was stopped taking photos or Mr Citizen was threatened with a fine because he filled his wheelbin too high. Yes they still need talking about but not at the cost of the disgraceful, illegal and totally unjust ordeals that passengers suffer day-in, day-out at our ports and airports. These crimes, for crimes are what they are, are totally ignored.

Sorry l forgot, ignore the previous paragraph ... we're smokers so are open to any attack aren't we? In essence ... it's Open Season on smokers ... all 4 seasons! Enjoy your lunch, convention, function or whatever  ... sorry to have bothered you.


  1. *will back coming back through Dover soon* I'm not happy to hear that.

    I got a letter from my GP today stating that I am a heavy smoker , and he didn't charge me for it :) and I've also been practicing covert recordings.

    P-R-E-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N ...find out what it means to me. Not saying they won't steal my goods but I'm sure as fuck going to fight them very single step of the way.

  2. You can't guarantee that your goods won't be seized. Zaphod, despite all his preparation still has had his goods seized 3 times but because of his preparation got them ALL back.

    All the seizures against him can be put down to UKBA/HMRC not understanding anything or reasoning that comes out of the Sked manual "ii. The absurdity of this reason is demonstrated by simply stating it; " or sheer arrogance.

  3. Spot on SH - everyone matters and is protected by law from harassment or hate crime except smokers and legal tobacco companies.

    It stinks. I'll be back blogging soon, btw, and it's posts like these that make me realise that none of us can ever give up. Too many of those that no one else gives a fuck about depend on our words of support and comfort.

  4. NOBODY is going to get away with taking and keeping any tobacco that I bring back from another EEC country for my own use.
    I am awaiting a letter from the HM Treasury (requested by my M.P.) in reply to my question:
    Am I breaking the Law by bringing back (for my own use) as many cigarettes that I require until I plan to travel again to get more.
    As I usually travel once a year to Europe and smoke 3 pouches of tobacco a week (being an approx. 20- 25 a day smoker and usually making 50 cigarettes from 1 50g pouch of tobacco) will the border control have the right to seize my 156 50gm pouches of tobacco that is my years supply ?

    I shall be insisting on an answer through my M.P.

  5. Thanks Pat, l needed that. Get this, if it's tobacco they can use any means they like, you dont get a copy of their notebook, they intimidate you to sign it (a confession really) and they don't record it. lf it's drugs, it's recorded, access to a solicitor and a host of other regs/laws to protect the accused!

    EU cross-border shoppers are treat worse than drug smugglers! ... and the country remains silent! FFS!

  6. Essex Witch ... let us know if you get a reply although l fear they'll just give you the leaflet Notice 1 which is the guidelines. They never answer anything!

    You sound as though you are capable of looking after yourself though. :)

  7. "and the country remains silent! FFS!"

    It's N O T an issue! How many times must you be told?

  8. Thats the answer SH carry half a kilo of coffee whitner in a see through bag!

  9. "I'll be back blogging soon"-Pat

    Best fucking news I've heard this fucking week, girl.

  10. I'm not a smoker and never have been. My Dad was and he kept smoking even after heart surgery. I supported his decision. It was his life to do with as he pleased.

    All passengers who pass through airports are subject to abuse and assault by BAA security staff. We are all subject to search, pat down, body scan all of which are assaults in the name of security.

    I'm with you smokers. Expose the UKBA. Get the evidence and get it out into the public domain. Get your message over about right to live your life. Get the non-evidence of secondary smoke out there too.

    The smoking ban should be lifted with the rights of smokers and non-smokers recognised in a fair and reasonable manner!!!!


"In the eyes of the Tribunal the review letter contained several preconceptions, prejudgments and non-sequiturs"

"the absurdity of this reason is demonstrated by simply stating it"

"We therefore find that Mr Sked misdirected himself as to the Policy in carrying out the review and his decision is therefore one that no reasonable review officer could have arrived at."

... commonly known here at N2D as 'Skeds' ... that is to say these are Judges comments regarding UKBA Review Officer Ian Sked's reasons for rejecting peoples appeals against seizures.

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