tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post1074246642385119231..comments2024-03-07T06:39:52.247+00:00Comments on Nothing 2 Declare: Read and weep .... HM Revenue and CustomsSmoking Hothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-76068436348624228512010-06-21T14:01:56.981+01:002010-06-21T14:01:56.981+01:00Good for you SH. Keep it up!Good for you SH. Keep it up!Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-64833300341114605162010-06-17T21:00:35.704+01:002010-06-17T21:00:35.704+01:00Chalcedon ... the new Sony dictaphones are wonderf...Chalcedon ... the new Sony dictaphones are wonderful, 300hrs recording. :)<br /><br />Yes, we are few but hopefully l can convince more to do it. That's the idea of the consultancy, l teach and educate the customers ... then hold their handS coming back to UK.Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-73517185510103875332010-06-17T17:16:31.759+01:002010-06-17T17:16:31.759+01:00Hearsay is admissable. Then so too is lying I expe...Hearsay is admissable. Then so too is lying I expect. Bit like a policeman giving his version of events. He is believed. I welcome these helmetcams. Might mean that you stand a chance of being believed.<br /><br />I'm sure yopu are dead right. but if no-one stands up for themselves when what they are doing is perfectly legal then the bastards will walk all over us.Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-67172191700361864272010-06-17T12:58:56.324+01:002010-06-17T12:58:56.324+01:00Chalcedon ... HMRC don't care about the Treaty...Chalcedon ... HMRC don't care about the Treaty of Rome or going to court. They don't care if they lose. The courts are civil and nothing has to be proven ... it goes on the balance of probabilities and hearsay is admissable, which HMRC use plenty of. HMRC's intent is to inconvienience shoppers as much as possible so they are wary of shopping abroad again and having to go through it all again if their goods are once again confiscated. And remember that very few people dare go to court against HMRC.<br /><br />HMRC know this and use it constantly to harrass members of the public. l'll be putting up an actual case soon once l get the documents etc from a reader.<br /><br />l was once an observer at one of these civil cases. There were so many kangaroos in it l thought it l was in Australia!Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-23546853215424037232010-06-17T12:02:28.027+01:002010-06-17T12:02:28.027+01:00SH: Sadly it is a case of give officials power and...SH: Sadly it is a case of give officials power and they will abuse it. Is it for personal use? Yes. I don't believe you. Confiscate. It really is not good enough when it's for 10 or 20 large cartons of fags or pouches of tobacco. I know it happens though. So invoke the treaty of Rome. Be awkward but not nasty or sweary. If they realise you will take it furyher such that they have to defend their actions they may just think it's too much hassle. If they do confiscate I would ask for a reason in writing signed by the officer. I think that is reasonable. they probably won't. Can I see your manager please? They have lost in court re the treaty of Rome before. I would take them to the small claims court for the value of my goods or restitution. If everyone they bugger up did that they would be more careful and focus on real criminals not members of the public legally avoiding the colossal taxes on tobacco and booze that these governments seem perfectly happy with. I'm sure charging VAT on top is a tax on a tax and probably illegal.<br /><br />Any way............BASTARDS!Chalcedonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-73613251810491972292010-06-17T11:12:03.203+01:002010-06-17T11:12:03.203+01:00Great stuff, SH, don't let 'em wriggle out...Great stuff, SH, don't let 'em wriggle out of it. :)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-66529257677366541532010-06-16T21:00:56.501+01:002010-06-16T21:00:56.501+01:00Anon ... l don't think the 3rd question was an...Anon ... l don't think the 3rd question was answered at all. HMRC only seem to accept the idea of occasional gifts i.e. birthdays and Xmas. Unfortunately my wife doesn't! :)Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-29923121505376393652010-06-16T20:54:16.051+01:002010-06-16T20:54:16.051+01:00Once there has been a reply (if he gets one) and d...Once there has been a reply (if he gets one) and depending on the content, l hope Danny takes it further if he doesn't get answers. lf he doesn't l probably will. ln the meantime l'll continue airing HMRC's dirty washing.<br /><br />Thanks for everyones input ... appreciated. :)Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-54657218842050726192010-06-16T19:29:52.472+01:002010-06-16T19:29:52.472+01:00I think that the next stage is to send a FOI reque...I think that the next stage is to send a FOI request and perhaps ask each question in a separate FOI request as HMRC are known to employ idiots and to have to answer 3 questions at once is a bit heavy on their brains.The witch from Essexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433164106840403244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-38942035805091024562010-06-16T17:11:02.149+01:002010-06-16T17:11:02.149+01:00You should always be asking under the FOI act anyw...You should always be asking under the FOI act anyway. And when a border agent asks you questions, just answer them in the same way they answered you above!<br /><br />I think the 3rd question was answered - they are a gift if you do not receive any money in return for them. I don't know if sex counts thoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-80923885425545959952010-06-16T13:27:16.119+01:002010-06-16T13:27:16.119+01:00If they fail to answer this time, ask them under t...If they fail to answer this time, ask them under the FOI act. I believe that they have to answer all FOI act inquiries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-36856079712401454372010-06-16T12:53:18.255+01:002010-06-16T12:53:18.255+01:00l'd like to agree but experience at our border...l'd like to agree but experience at our borders with UK Customs Officers shows otherwise. These officers use the answers to these questions as a means of confiscating goods off legitimate shoppers. They use many other tactics against shoppers. Remember, most shoppers are scared of Customs and appeals to the court ... unlike myself and you it seems.<br /><br />l agree entirely on the tobacco but Customs have been using a benchmark of 6 months shelflife for the purpose of confiscation ... and still do.<br /><br />Their reluctance to answer the enquiry about shelflife etc shows this to be true, does it not?Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430921577426368890.post-3576277538635067642010-06-16T12:22:40.281+01:002010-06-16T12:22:40.281+01:00Surely what a customs officer thinks and decides i...Surely what a customs officer thinks and decides is irrelevant. You are innocent until proven guilty. if they confiscate, aka steal your legally bought goods they are infringing the Treaty of Rome. I'm sure they have been found guilty of this before. If they can prove you sold your fags/tobacco/booze then that's another matter.<br /><br />Hermetically sealed tobacco can last years and you can use a humidor too.Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.com